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I went to the Ameristar Casino in KC recently with three buddies. Three of us got on the same table, it was a 1/2 table. Justin was short and bought in for $50. John and I had full stacks of $200.
John is by far the most aggressive of the three of us. We are playing for an hour or so and I have not dragged a pot. I am in the eight seat. Justin, in the five seat, is doing the only thing he can and waiting on a monster to double up. John had lost two buy ins with flopped top and bottom pair to top two pair. Top pair to rivered flush draw that was getting zero odds to call flop and turn pot sized bets. TT to AK on next hand all in when guy next to me thinks John is just steaming and pushes pre flop. King on the river. John is in the two seat.
Ok, the hand. I am in the big blind and look down at AKos. One limper to John who promptly raises it to $15. Like I said he is the most aggressive person at the table. I have seen him raise KQos. He bets his draws hard. Folds around to Justin who promptly puts his $60 all in. John make a sound like he can't believe it is happening again.
What do I do? I want to play this hand. John's range is any pair or KQ or better. I know Justin has a monster. AQs at the very worst. I do not like him for AA or KK due to my holding. I think for a while and decide that I either have to fold or push my $170. My thinking is John does not have AA or KK either, mostly because of his reaction to Justin's move all in, and I have to give him a chance to fold. If I just call, he could move all in and I have to fold. So I push. I figure it is good for Justin too. I protect his hand. John folds his QQ face up in disgust. Justin flips over QQ. Flop comes all non face cards but the board goes runner runner diamonds to give me the better flush with king high to Justin's queen.
The ride home was fun. John said I made a tournament move. He never explained it but I think he meant that I did not try to extract value from my hand. My thinking is that AK is not a made hand and plays better against one opponent than two. Justin said I had to know I was beat there. I told him that I knew he was strong but I discounted AA and KK. Anything else was basically a coin flip and he did not have enough money to get me out of the pot. I will flip AK for $60. If I double him up, good for him. Anyway, I saved John some money because his QQ was no good either. If I had just folded, he would have lost to Justin on the flush and been ever more steamed. John dropped $700 that day. He is running so bad. His bankroll was over $8000 a month ago and now it is down under $4000. I can only imagine the super monkey tilt he would have gone on if QQ went down to QQ. So in a way, I saved his bank roll.
Did I play it right? John and Justin do not think I did. You?
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4 comments:
Flipping coins is a tourney move. I assume that is what he means. Waiting for better hands and outplaying people post flop is cash game. Jamming in your AK is not a long term profitable play in cash because there is no need to "double up now" because the blinds are increasing. etc. etc. You can find a spot with a better than "coin flip" proposition for you.
I would've folded.....especially with 2 opponents, but luckily you didn't.
True on both. I just figured I was ahead of John and coin flipping with Justin. Do you still let go of AK there for that amount? How little money does Justin have to have in order to make that play ok? $40, $30. Thanks for the thoughts.
funny how Justin disparages "tournament" play but buys in for 25 big blinds. Tell him if he doesn't want players to make "tournament" plays on him, he should give them 100BB effective stacks to worry about.
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